JazzByTheBay
09-10 08:51 PM
It was naive for everyone, including those with PDs in 2006/2007 (and - here's the funny part.. even those who recently filed... ) to suddenly expect the tap to be flowing with full force and everyone's AOS being approved magically in the months of August and September 2008.
We have historical data about the USCIS' efficiencies - but for those who believed (and I'm not excluding myself here... ), it was probably a welcome break, full of hope. It was great while it lasted.
In the process, we've lost focus on the bigger goals - HR 5882 being one of them.
When things were "CURRENT", all we could think of was tracking LUDs and claiming superiority based on an earlier PD or a "U.S. Masters... ".
Again, it's time to take a hard look at past successes and failures, question why we're still in this country, and if you have no doubts about that - get back to the business of pushing for legislation, imho.
jazz
Please realize that HR 5882 is the only hope for now. I had mentioned in my previous posts that EB 2 I/C will retrogress in Oct (many said i was just saying this because i was EB3). This is not the time to be complacent or hope that USCIS will start dishing out visas and clear the backlogs. Help in working towards getting something done with the bills, the window of opportunity is very short.
We have historical data about the USCIS' efficiencies - but for those who believed (and I'm not excluding myself here... ), it was probably a welcome break, full of hope. It was great while it lasted.
In the process, we've lost focus on the bigger goals - HR 5882 being one of them.
When things were "CURRENT", all we could think of was tracking LUDs and claiming superiority based on an earlier PD or a "U.S. Masters... ".
Again, it's time to take a hard look at past successes and failures, question why we're still in this country, and if you have no doubts about that - get back to the business of pushing for legislation, imho.
jazz
Please realize that HR 5882 is the only hope for now. I had mentioned in my previous posts that EB 2 I/C will retrogress in Oct (many said i was just saying this because i was EB3). This is not the time to be complacent or hope that USCIS will start dishing out visas and clear the backlogs. Help in working towards getting something done with the bills, the window of opportunity is very short.
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brav
07-19 09:42 AM
Just contributed $100
I think IV has done a lot in just 19 months and with the core team, who understands every issue (BEC, retrogression, namecheck, etc) and working diligently to bring a practical solution, should bring a sense of comfort to all of us that our prayers are answered in the form of IV.
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I think IV has done a lot in just 19 months and with the core team, who understands every issue (BEC, retrogression, namecheck, etc) and working diligently to bring a practical solution, should bring a sense of comfort to all of us that our prayers are answered in the form of IV.
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kshitijnt
02-09 09:18 PM
In months of June, Jul and Aug , many EADs & APs are up for renewal due to July07 fiasco. So by moving dates forward, USCIS can cash in lot of reveue as it has to issue only 1 yr EAD in that case. If the dates are not current, they will have to issue 2 yr EAD and although they dont mean to approve many cases, I tend to think they will keep moving dates forward.
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django.stone
03-05 11:51 AM
My case does not have a LUD.
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ramus
09-09 09:49 AM
Amma,
Thank you so much for your contribution.
Dear friends,
Contributed $ 300 today via google .
Keep going IV.
Amma
Thank you so much for your contribution.
Dear friends,
Contributed $ 300 today via google .
Keep going IV.
Amma
ndbhatt
09-09 12:43 PM
My 2 cents.
From what I have read and learned from my experience, the dwelling (house/condo/apt, etc) prices are sensible and affordable (read payable) if it is between 2-3 times household annual income. I think this applies universaly with few exceptions.
Average household (family) income in India metro cities is around 6-7 INR lacs. For folks working in IT, it would be 'X' % more depending on his/her work. Let's take liberal amount of 12 lacs p.a.
This means that buying a property for price over INR 36 lacs would carry significant risk of defaulting. I have heard many of my friends give me argument that our income will grow significantly over years and should be able to manage higher loan amounts.
I am really aghast at the rate at which NRI's are investing in India. I can speak to Mumbai, where there are thousands of NRI bought properties that are vacant for years and there is no justifiable ROI. Having realised that there is no ROI due to resale or renting, sooner or later they will start pulling out their hard earned money. I wouldn't be surprised to see many foreclosures, in years to come, and RBI may have to bail out ICICI, IDBI, etc - a scenario similar to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
I have thumb rule for myself - Don't buy property which is 3 times more than current annual income.
P.S. This isn't applicable for folks who have inherited a fortune. :D
From what I have read and learned from my experience, the dwelling (house/condo/apt, etc) prices are sensible and affordable (read payable) if it is between 2-3 times household annual income. I think this applies universaly with few exceptions.
Average household (family) income in India metro cities is around 6-7 INR lacs. For folks working in IT, it would be 'X' % more depending on his/her work. Let's take liberal amount of 12 lacs p.a.
This means that buying a property for price over INR 36 lacs would carry significant risk of defaulting. I have heard many of my friends give me argument that our income will grow significantly over years and should be able to manage higher loan amounts.
I am really aghast at the rate at which NRI's are investing in India. I can speak to Mumbai, where there are thousands of NRI bought properties that are vacant for years and there is no justifiable ROI. Having realised that there is no ROI due to resale or renting, sooner or later they will start pulling out their hard earned money. I wouldn't be surprised to see many foreclosures, in years to come, and RBI may have to bail out ICICI, IDBI, etc - a scenario similar to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
I have thumb rule for myself - Don't buy property which is 3 times more than current annual income.
P.S. This isn't applicable for folks who have inherited a fortune. :D
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andy garcia
10-01 04:26 PM
Cut-off days not only determine number of applications that can be received at their end, but also the make eligible applications approvable. I think at times when the cut-off date resulted in more approvable cases than USCIS can handle, then they move it back as well.
May be they should have two cut-off days instead of one like this:
1. One for receiving applications beyond that date.
2. Another for approval.
This may help them to pick necessary applications needed from this pool and approve them without losing the allocated visas.
I think change has to come from the legislation wing to amend the procedure in USCIS.
Thanks
This might work, except that the law would have to be changed he other way also.
If they allow you to apply for 485, the law says that you have the right to EAD and AP which will make it then too cumbersome for CIS to handle.
That is why when you apply for Consular Processing, your approved Visa petition(140) remains on NVC(National Visa Center) and you do not get any fringe benefit until your PD is current.
May be they should have two cut-off days instead of one like this:
1. One for receiving applications beyond that date.
2. Another for approval.
This may help them to pick necessary applications needed from this pool and approve them without losing the allocated visas.
I think change has to come from the legislation wing to amend the procedure in USCIS.
Thanks
This might work, except that the law would have to be changed he other way also.
If they allow you to apply for 485, the law says that you have the right to EAD and AP which will make it then too cumbersome for CIS to handle.
That is why when you apply for Consular Processing, your approved Visa petition(140) remains on NVC(National Visa Center) and you do not get any fringe benefit until your PD is current.
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villamonte6100
04-03 09:30 AM
Administrator,
can you please CLOSE this thread, please ?
1) It's annoying to see grown up ppl fight like children.
2) This forum needs to keep it's focus. Members are supposed to help each other and our cause. We are IV and IV is us.
3) we do not need internecine fights, that digress's from our mission.
4) This thread is contributing to wastage og volunteer resources, computer resources, temperments and increasing member frustations and BLOOD PRESSURE.
I humbly request you to put this to rest by closing this thread.
Slowwin,
I would like to thank you for requesting the closure of this thread.
As you said it, is really annoying and shoots your blood pressure up. I may have been responding unnecessarily here myself.
Administrators, please close this thread.
can you please CLOSE this thread, please ?
1) It's annoying to see grown up ppl fight like children.
2) This forum needs to keep it's focus. Members are supposed to help each other and our cause. We are IV and IV is us.
3) we do not need internecine fights, that digress's from our mission.
4) This thread is contributing to wastage og volunteer resources, computer resources, temperments and increasing member frustations and BLOOD PRESSURE.
I humbly request you to put this to rest by closing this thread.
Slowwin,
I would like to thank you for requesting the closure of this thread.
As you said it, is really annoying and shoots your blood pressure up. I may have been responding unnecessarily here myself.
Administrators, please close this thread.
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mbawa2574
07-06 01:56 PM
Guys for sake of transparency and moving ahead with a change, we should hold elections for the core team. Lobbying efforts are not working at all.
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EkAurAaya
04-30 02:58 PM
King says
tens of thousands applicants who will eventually get their GC applications get denied are getting free ride on EAD/AP.
I didnt get this... did he mean GC applications that eventually get denied are getting a free ride because of EAD/AP?
tens of thousands applicants who will eventually get their GC applications get denied are getting free ride on EAD/AP.
I didnt get this... did he mean GC applications that eventually get denied are getting a free ride because of EAD/AP?
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Green.Tech
05-25 11:28 AM
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ItIsNotFunny
09-17 05:27 AM
I have done some ground work and am planning to start a company this week - my wife as owner. I have couple of other friends who have filed 485 in June.
My goal for first couple of years is not to make profit but to increase turnover so it would be easier for me to present the company to big corporations and register as preferred vendor. I am planning to pay 96% of the rate to the employee. This way employee will get most of his / her rate without getting into opening their own corporation. At present I am working with attorney to finalize agreement with employee for this.
My goal for first couple of years is not to make profit but to increase turnover so it would be easier for me to present the company to big corporations and register as preferred vendor. I am planning to pay 96% of the rate to the employee. This way employee will get most of his / her rate without getting into opening their own corporation. At present I am working with attorney to finalize agreement with employee for this.
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chanduv23
02-24 09:54 AM
The way this whole thing has turned out to be now is like a challenge or a race where there is no room for values or emotions or in general life and careers.
Many people have taken this as part of life and looked at it as slow sailing clouds and trying to make the best out of it and it has been challenging at every stage.
As such, life is not easy - anywhere in the world. Believe me. Those who get lucrative jobs in India or elsewhere does not necessarily mean they are doing great and better.
The best one can make out of any situation is independent thinking and self introspection. Can we do something to make things better? Are our vlices heard loud? Is there anything that can be done? What have I contributed? have I done anything to make things better for us?
It is we, who form the society and if we are suffering, we have to blame ourselves for our inaction. In tough situations, we need to come out of the "grass green on the other side" attitude and see how we can improve the situation ourselves.
The way things have turned out to our kinds is that we have been set to fail - that is the kind of system we are in now.
Apart from immigration, for an average American, burning issues are economy, jobs, terrorism, war and healthcare - a lot of people die because they cannot afford healthcare and reform is nowhere near.
Can we all unite and make ourselves heard? Can we make ourselves credible enough that we are heard and a part of the process rather than kept away from it? The answer is in us and the choice is ours. Look at history on how were and how things changed. History is not only to study, one has to make history. Can we do it?
Many people have taken this as part of life and looked at it as slow sailing clouds and trying to make the best out of it and it has been challenging at every stage.
As such, life is not easy - anywhere in the world. Believe me. Those who get lucrative jobs in India or elsewhere does not necessarily mean they are doing great and better.
The best one can make out of any situation is independent thinking and self introspection. Can we do something to make things better? Are our vlices heard loud? Is there anything that can be done? What have I contributed? have I done anything to make things better for us?
It is we, who form the society and if we are suffering, we have to blame ourselves for our inaction. In tough situations, we need to come out of the "grass green on the other side" attitude and see how we can improve the situation ourselves.
The way things have turned out to our kinds is that we have been set to fail - that is the kind of system we are in now.
Apart from immigration, for an average American, burning issues are economy, jobs, terrorism, war and healthcare - a lot of people die because they cannot afford healthcare and reform is nowhere near.
Can we all unite and make ourselves heard? Can we make ourselves credible enough that we are heard and a part of the process rather than kept away from it? The answer is in us and the choice is ours. Look at history on how were and how things changed. History is not only to study, one has to make history. Can we do it?
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go_guy123
09-01 10:44 AM
Landed on H1b in 1998, still stuck in the muck
EB3- I is finished pretty much. It is illogical now to expect GC even. Need to accept reality and look at other options in life.
EB3- I is finished pretty much. It is illogical now to expect GC even. Need to accept reality and look at other options in life.
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mpadapa
06-24 02:35 PM
RNGC, excellent thread, looks like pessimistic folks have taking this thread for a ride.
America stands to loose in many ways. Here is why..
A study by Kauffman Foundation shows that "an average 13.25-year lag between a key founder’s arrival in the United States and firm formation" - source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
Loosing well trained individuals due to frustration with the immigration system or due to expired visa duration is equivalent to outsourcing. impact of outsourcing to the US economy is very well debated these days.
Another Kauffman report shows Immigrants were involved in 25% of the US patents approved in 2006 - Source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1008366#PaperDownload
This leads to reverse-brain drain phenomena who's effects to the economy are well documented.
Here is couple of NFAP study about
The impact of immigrant Entrepreneurs and professionals on the US competitiveness:
http://www.nfap.com/researchactivities/studies/immigrant_entreprenuers_professionals_november_200 6.pdf
Driving Jobs and innovation offshore:
http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf
Stalling the career path through GC backlogs will impede the creativity of the individuals and hence dampen their entrepreneurial spirit. It also kills the innovative spirits in the individuals.
Those who feel that "grass is greener on the other side" will jump to the other side irrespective of their GC backlog issues, their criteria is different. But there are many who believes that the American system cultivates innovation and entrepreneurial skills, for them the GC backlog is a drag on their growth.
EB1/2/3 is not a delimiter to innovation, innovation happens at all levels. All EB1's aren't PhD's, there are quite a few PhD's in EB2 and similarly there are quite a few MS folks in EB3 too. By saying US just wants EB1 is utter disrespect to fellow professionals who are not on EB1.
People,
I am preparing an article for NY times explaining our sufferings! Please contribute your thoughts.
1. What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
2. How people who have green cards are contributing to the country as a whole ?
3. What if the whole green card process takes less than 3 years ?
Few obvious things are we would have bought a house, gone up in our carrier ladder, spend more and contribute to the economy, our spouse could have started working etc....
I am looking for thoughts and experience other than the above things.
America stands to loose in many ways. Here is why..
A study by Kauffman Foundation shows that "an average 13.25-year lag between a key founder’s arrival in the United States and firm formation" - source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=991327#PaperDownload
Loosing well trained individuals due to frustration with the immigration system or due to expired visa duration is equivalent to outsourcing. impact of outsourcing to the US economy is very well debated these days.
Another Kauffman report shows Immigrants were involved in 25% of the US patents approved in 2006 - Source : http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1008366#PaperDownload
This leads to reverse-brain drain phenomena who's effects to the economy are well documented.
Here is couple of NFAP study about
The impact of immigrant Entrepreneurs and professionals on the US competitiveness:
http://www.nfap.com/researchactivities/studies/immigrant_entreprenuers_professionals_november_200 6.pdf
Driving Jobs and innovation offshore:
http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf
Stalling the career path through GC backlogs will impede the creativity of the individuals and hence dampen their entrepreneurial spirit. It also kills the innovative spirits in the individuals.
Those who feel that "grass is greener on the other side" will jump to the other side irrespective of their GC backlog issues, their criteria is different. But there are many who believes that the American system cultivates innovation and entrepreneurial skills, for them the GC backlog is a drag on their growth.
EB1/2/3 is not a delimiter to innovation, innovation happens at all levels. All EB1's aren't PhD's, there are quite a few PhD's in EB2 and similarly there are quite a few MS folks in EB3 too. By saying US just wants EB1 is utter disrespect to fellow professionals who are not on EB1.
People,
I am preparing an article for NY times explaining our sufferings! Please contribute your thoughts.
1. What is America losing because of our prolonged wait for Green Cards?
2. How people who have green cards are contributing to the country as a whole ?
3. What if the whole green card process takes less than 3 years ?
Few obvious things are we would have bought a house, gone up in our carrier ladder, spend more and contribute to the economy, our spouse could have started working etc....
I am looking for thoughts and experience other than the above things.
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GotGC??
01-04 02:45 PM
...here is the latest example (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/India/For_IITians_today_home_is_where_the_moolah_is/articleshow/1054987.cms).
'One leg of an IITian is in India, the other in Air India' went a popular wisecrack of the late 1980s and early '90s. No longer. The brain drain from IITs has diminished to a trickle, with only 21 out of 3,980 BTech graduates going abroad in 2006.
About two decades ago, over 80% IITians hopped on to a plane for foreign shores, the preferred destination being the US. The 'IIT route' was a BTech from IIT, an MS (Masters) from USA and a dollar job. Much has changed since then, and brains that used to be siphoned off by developed nations are now preferring to stay back home.
In the early 1990s, the outflow of computer science graduates to the US was so high that the World Bank, in a report, had suggested that an exit tax be imposed on IITians and other professionals leaving the country � this, it said, could earn the government over $1 billion (about Rs 4,400 crore) per annum. Today, if the government decided to adopt this, it would earn only crumbs.
A quick look at statistics shows that in 2006, only three of IIT Kanpur�s 273 BTech students and two from the five-year MSc integrated course went abroad. All the others � 267 MTech students, two-year MSc grads and MBAs � stayed back in the country. At IIT Delhi, of the approximate 1,000 job-seekers, only one student went abroad to join CapitalOne, a financial consulting firm.
The slowdown is evident even at the older IITs. At IIT Mumbai, 95% of the students were placed in India while at IIT Madras, only two BTech students went on to join Lehman Brothers at the Tokyo office.
"There was a time when I had to set aside days to write recommendation letters for students wanting to go abroad, either to study or work," says Ashok Misra, IIT-B director. ��Now, because good jobs are available to BTech students, not many opt for post-graduate courses abroad. Only about 15% students go overseas for higher studies and approximately 5% take a job outside India."
Ratnajit Bhattacharjee, faculty in-charge (training and placement) of IIT Guwahati, says corporate giants still opt for IITians but prefer to recruit them for their India operations. Bhattacharjee attributes the phenomenon of "almost zero brain drain" to the fact that MNCs have not just entered the country in a big way but are also looking at greater expansion here. "British Telecom used to regularly hire IIT Guwahati students,�� he says. ��It does today also, but for its Bangalore operations."
Deepak Phatak, former head of the computer science department at IIT Bombay, who conducted exit interviews with students from 1991 to 1994, remembers almost everyone then was flying to the US.
'One leg of an IITian is in India, the other in Air India' went a popular wisecrack of the late 1980s and early '90s. No longer. The brain drain from IITs has diminished to a trickle, with only 21 out of 3,980 BTech graduates going abroad in 2006.
About two decades ago, over 80% IITians hopped on to a plane for foreign shores, the preferred destination being the US. The 'IIT route' was a BTech from IIT, an MS (Masters) from USA and a dollar job. Much has changed since then, and brains that used to be siphoned off by developed nations are now preferring to stay back home.
In the early 1990s, the outflow of computer science graduates to the US was so high that the World Bank, in a report, had suggested that an exit tax be imposed on IITians and other professionals leaving the country � this, it said, could earn the government over $1 billion (about Rs 4,400 crore) per annum. Today, if the government decided to adopt this, it would earn only crumbs.
A quick look at statistics shows that in 2006, only three of IIT Kanpur�s 273 BTech students and two from the five-year MSc integrated course went abroad. All the others � 267 MTech students, two-year MSc grads and MBAs � stayed back in the country. At IIT Delhi, of the approximate 1,000 job-seekers, only one student went abroad to join CapitalOne, a financial consulting firm.
The slowdown is evident even at the older IITs. At IIT Mumbai, 95% of the students were placed in India while at IIT Madras, only two BTech students went on to join Lehman Brothers at the Tokyo office.
"There was a time when I had to set aside days to write recommendation letters for students wanting to go abroad, either to study or work," says Ashok Misra, IIT-B director. ��Now, because good jobs are available to BTech students, not many opt for post-graduate courses abroad. Only about 15% students go overseas for higher studies and approximately 5% take a job outside India."
Ratnajit Bhattacharjee, faculty in-charge (training and placement) of IIT Guwahati, says corporate giants still opt for IITians but prefer to recruit them for their India operations. Bhattacharjee attributes the phenomenon of "almost zero brain drain" to the fact that MNCs have not just entered the country in a big way but are also looking at greater expansion here. "British Telecom used to regularly hire IIT Guwahati students,�� he says. ��It does today also, but for its Bangalore operations."
Deepak Phatak, former head of the computer science department at IIT Bombay, who conducted exit interviews with students from 1991 to 1994, remembers almost everyone then was flying to the US.
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gc_on_demand
03-09 11:32 AM
For Eb2 india and china dates will be like this in April 2009 bulletin.
Eb2 India : Feb 2005
China : Feb 2006
May 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2005
China : May 2006
June 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Sep 2005
China : Sep 2006
July 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Feb 2006
China : Feb 2007
August 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2007
China : May 2008
Eb2 India : Feb 2005
China : Feb 2006
May 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2005
China : May 2006
June 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Sep 2005
China : Sep 2006
July 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Feb 2006
China : Feb 2007
August 2009 bulletin
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uma001
02-24 01:07 PM
Dont assume that people who gone back to India and working a manager are living happily without any issues.
One of my friends whome I used to work in 2005 was promoted to manager in 2007. Now he is in a dilemma whether to continue to go up the ladder or come back doing technical stuff. Salary wise he is not getting that much and he doesnt know how the company will do infuture. It all depends on US economy. If you are looking for 18L above salary, then it is very very tough to get a job in india.
One of my friends whome I used to work in 2005 was promoted to manager in 2007. Now he is in a dilemma whether to continue to go up the ladder or come back doing technical stuff. Salary wise he is not getting that much and he doesnt know how the company will do infuture. It all depends on US economy. If you are looking for 18L above salary, then it is very very tough to get a job in india.
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chanduv23
09-12 11:53 AM
We won't know if it effective unless we execute it, which is the biggest issue with us "the execution".
So far as locating old PDs are concerned, it USCIS knows it exists and if there is willinglness, they can dig it out from anywhere.
On the other hand , if this not fixed then even if there are 200K extra visas, the sufferings will persist.
True - it has to be fixed. We must send a strong signal. Otherwise, they will ignore old PDs, look at wikipedia, alipac etc.... to adjujicate cases
So far as locating old PDs are concerned, it USCIS knows it exists and if there is willinglness, they can dig it out from anywhere.
On the other hand , if this not fixed then even if there are 200K extra visas, the sufferings will persist.
True - it has to be fixed. We must send a strong signal. Otherwise, they will ignore old PDs, look at wikipedia, alipac etc.... to adjujicate cases
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07-23 11:37 PM
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