learning01
03-16 12:55 PM
[I posted this comment at another thread a few minutes ago. For a wider read I am also posting here]
Newt said Nothing is going to happen on this Specter or any other immigration bills in Senate. The conference with House will not agree to anything.
I also sincerely believe that Nothing is going to happen I say, these senators are doing CYAs; they will bitch it to media, their constituents, hey look, we did attempt these immigration reforms.
I am talking from my long experience and wisdom and take it from me. The only force that can improve the pitiable conditions of Indian and Chinese due to retrogression and lack of visa numbers is the big corporate employers . Each one whose LC is approved, whose I-140 is approved, who is waiting to file for adjustment of status AND who are indispensable to the employer / work at this stage should write to the HR/ Immigration/ Attorney.
I am in such a position. I am a technical lead in my IT department. PD Nov 2001. I write about these issues and the difficulties once in a month my team manager, or project manager or Immigration department.
Newt said Nothing is going to happen on this Specter or any other immigration bills in Senate. The conference with House will not agree to anything.
I also sincerely believe that Nothing is going to happen I say, these senators are doing CYAs; they will bitch it to media, their constituents, hey look, we did attempt these immigration reforms.
I am talking from my long experience and wisdom and take it from me. The only force that can improve the pitiable conditions of Indian and Chinese due to retrogression and lack of visa numbers is the big corporate employers . Each one whose LC is approved, whose I-140 is approved, who is waiting to file for adjustment of status AND who are indispensable to the employer / work at this stage should write to the HR/ Immigration/ Attorney.
I am in such a position. I am a technical lead in my IT department. PD Nov 2001. I write about these issues and the difficulties once in a month my team manager, or project manager or Immigration department.
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psaxena
08-12 01:21 PM
Pappu, I agree what you are saying. But the bigger issue here is the awareness.. I talk to so many friends and friend's friend. The only thing that I find is they are not aware of IV or its effort.
Lack of awareness is another issue for IV community to form a lobby group like others.
IV has too many contacts in the media, would that not be a great idea to leverage them to advertise at prime time on Indian channels , or just the google ads on Dishnetwork screen for cheap or work out something.
Just to get the people an awareness of what IV is and get them a feeling that its BIG enough to help them. Support some candidates in the election, just to get the name floating. Leave aside the American, Indians or chinese(mostly the legal immigrants) I sometime work with don't know anything about IV. I go to SFO meet my parents almost every month and my brother's circle (all citizens) have no idea of what I am talking about. All they know there was problem is Labor clearance in their time which is no more now.
What is IV , who is IV........ no idea at all. NADA.
A planned campaign to make th awareness can help our cause.
Just my 1 cent.
To answer your question: Indian companies in India or Indian politicians complaining will not do much impact. After passing this bill politicians will cosy up and say good things to rebuild relations. The real impact can happen if Indians in New York state who can vote stand up against such laws. Same goes for the Desi companies who have tried to raise the voice against USCIS memo. They lack grassroots advocacy and support. Their Indian US citizen friends are busy organizing Diwali melas and Shahrukh Khan stage shows. Immigration voice can be extremely successful if politicians see us as an immigrant lobby. Just like they see Jewish lobby or Hispanic lobby. This is why participation of IV greencard members and citizen friends is important to advocate for changes that helps the immigrant community. I this case too, IV community should not turn a blind eye to what happens around us. Just because we do not work for such companies or we already have EAD does not mean we do not see beyond the headline of this issue. We spend more time analyzing , over analyzing, predicting and tracking rather than actively understanding the politics of issues that are causing all the problems we are facing. To some extent this law passed because Indians in USA did not care due to their narrow outlook and priorities in politics.
Lack of awareness is another issue for IV community to form a lobby group like others.
IV has too many contacts in the media, would that not be a great idea to leverage them to advertise at prime time on Indian channels , or just the google ads on Dishnetwork screen for cheap or work out something.
Just to get the people an awareness of what IV is and get them a feeling that its BIG enough to help them. Support some candidates in the election, just to get the name floating. Leave aside the American, Indians or chinese(mostly the legal immigrants) I sometime work with don't know anything about IV. I go to SFO meet my parents almost every month and my brother's circle (all citizens) have no idea of what I am talking about. All they know there was problem is Labor clearance in their time which is no more now.
What is IV , who is IV........ no idea at all. NADA.
A planned campaign to make th awareness can help our cause.
Just my 1 cent.
To answer your question: Indian companies in India or Indian politicians complaining will not do much impact. After passing this bill politicians will cosy up and say good things to rebuild relations. The real impact can happen if Indians in New York state who can vote stand up against such laws. Same goes for the Desi companies who have tried to raise the voice against USCIS memo. They lack grassroots advocacy and support. Their Indian US citizen friends are busy organizing Diwali melas and Shahrukh Khan stage shows. Immigration voice can be extremely successful if politicians see us as an immigrant lobby. Just like they see Jewish lobby or Hispanic lobby. This is why participation of IV greencard members and citizen friends is important to advocate for changes that helps the immigrant community. I this case too, IV community should not turn a blind eye to what happens around us. Just because we do not work for such companies or we already have EAD does not mean we do not see beyond the headline of this issue. We spend more time analyzing , over analyzing, predicting and tracking rather than actively understanding the politics of issues that are causing all the problems we are facing. To some extent this law passed because Indians in USA did not care due to their narrow outlook and priorities in politics.
akhilmahajan
07-15 05:14 PM
Total So far 1515.00. We are Well short of our target of 2000.00. Let's Go Guys. $5 to IV = Hope for GC = Subway FootLong Sub.
COME ON FOLKS HELP IV HELP YOURSELF.
COME ON FOLKS HELP IV HELP YOURSELF.
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hebron
10-28 02:37 PM
Thanks guys for posting your experiences.
I spoke with my attorney today regarding filing a new PERM labor and I-140 under EB2 with the same employer. My EB3 labor was filed for Software Engineer position and now my role is a senior role as a Principal Software Engineer. My job duties have changed but not by 50%. My attorney says in order to successfully apply for EB2 labor and I-140 with the same employer, the job should be 50% different from the EB3 Job description.
I don't know how to convince my attorney. Can somebody tell me if I have a valid case for EB2.
I have an MCA from India and 4 years of experience before I joined my current employer. Now I have 12+ years of experience. My current job as a Principal Software Engineer requires a Bachelors + 7 years or Master's + 2 years of experience. I have a Masters with 4 years before I joined my current employer. So i should be eligible to apply for EB2 labor without the experience gained from my current employer. Is that correct?
I spoke with my attorney today regarding filing a new PERM labor and I-140 under EB2 with the same employer. My EB3 labor was filed for Software Engineer position and now my role is a senior role as a Principal Software Engineer. My job duties have changed but not by 50%. My attorney says in order to successfully apply for EB2 labor and I-140 with the same employer, the job should be 50% different from the EB3 Job description.
I don't know how to convince my attorney. Can somebody tell me if I have a valid case for EB2.
I have an MCA from India and 4 years of experience before I joined my current employer. Now I have 12+ years of experience. My current job as a Principal Software Engineer requires a Bachelors + 7 years or Master's + 2 years of experience. I have a Masters with 4 years before I joined my current employer. So i should be eligible to apply for EB2 labor without the experience gained from my current employer. Is that correct?
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saimrathi
09-27 01:48 PM
Got our DL and State IDs renewed today in PA.. I had my pp, I-129 approval, spouse's pp, I-539 approval, Address proofs, employment letter, most recent paystub, letter from Social Security office for spouse.. They didn't have any problems renewing my DL as I already had a SSN.. but since my spouse doesn't have SSN they had to get some verification from USCIS online.. The only trouble with that was they didn't remember their login info, but once they found that, it took them only minutes to find what they needed and processed my spouse's renewal... So we dont have to worry about this for 3 years (actually our state ID has been renewed for 4 years, strange)...
Pineapple
01-06 04:58 PM
The video is obviously edited, so it is hard to put some of the statements into context without access to the entire transcript. (In any case, we cannot see what charts he is referring to)
Anyway: Regarding the point that it is relatively easy to find skilled people here than in India, I tend to agree. However, the reason is that the most skilled graduates from India (and China) do not stick around for long there, and are actually to be found here! Without checking the raw data it is impossible to comment on Mr Wadhwa's assertion regarding ease of filling positions in US vs India/China. (For instance, does his data on US companies include positions (in US) filled by immigrants or does it include only positions filled by US born citizens?)
Getting to where he is amazed that R&D is done in India & China, I'm not sure why that is surprising, and indeed, why should it even contradict his assertion that the vast majority of Indian/Chinese graduates are appalling. I'm not commenting on whether that assertion is true or not. I do not know, but, even granting it is true, it is important to remember that a minority of a large population might be as big, or bigger than the majority of a small population. (Remember, you have to exclude all foreign students from US universities and only include US born citizens in the population of American engineers. Why? Because all foreign students would need H1 to work here, just the same as a student in a Indian/Chinese university. To avoid 'double counting' basically) So how do we compare apples to apples? How do we compare "number of good engineers in US" vs "number of good engineers in China/India"? It is very hard to do that via a survey, if not impossible. The best survey is observing the "invisible hand" of the market: If good research is done in India/China, while simultaneously, immigrants from there have a had a huge role to play in Silicon Valley's success, that tells you something, does it not?
Anyway: Regarding the point that it is relatively easy to find skilled people here than in India, I tend to agree. However, the reason is that the most skilled graduates from India (and China) do not stick around for long there, and are actually to be found here! Without checking the raw data it is impossible to comment on Mr Wadhwa's assertion regarding ease of filling positions in US vs India/China. (For instance, does his data on US companies include positions (in US) filled by immigrants or does it include only positions filled by US born citizens?)
Getting to where he is amazed that R&D is done in India & China, I'm not sure why that is surprising, and indeed, why should it even contradict his assertion that the vast majority of Indian/Chinese graduates are appalling. I'm not commenting on whether that assertion is true or not. I do not know, but, even granting it is true, it is important to remember that a minority of a large population might be as big, or bigger than the majority of a small population. (Remember, you have to exclude all foreign students from US universities and only include US born citizens in the population of American engineers. Why? Because all foreign students would need H1 to work here, just the same as a student in a Indian/Chinese university. To avoid 'double counting' basically) So how do we compare apples to apples? How do we compare "number of good engineers in US" vs "number of good engineers in China/India"? It is very hard to do that via a survey, if not impossible. The best survey is observing the "invisible hand" of the market: If good research is done in India/China, while simultaneously, immigrants from there have a had a huge role to play in Silicon Valley's success, that tells you something, does it not?
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akhilmahajan
07-16 11:01 AM
Total So far 1970.00. We are Well short of our target of 2000.00. Let's Go Guys. $5 to IV = Hope for GC.
COME ON FOLKS HELP IV HELP YOURSELF.
COME ON FOLKS HELP IV HELP YOURSELF.
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tikka
07-18 08:29 PM
Contributed 100$. Thanks, IV!
for your contribution..:)
for your contribution..:)
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sunny1000
07-06 06:24 PM
And how does it not apply to AOS.
For Consular processing people have to plan trips and get medical and all that.
Why doesnt the same analogy apply to AOS. - Please explain...:confused:
The difference is that AOS is handled by USCIS and the CP is done by DOS. It is the USCIS which ran out of the 60000 visas (supposedly) before July 1st even though DOS opened those numbers up for the entire July.
Now, DOS is saying to USCIS " you guys used your quota even before the rush started and so, we won't give you any more visa numbers but, we will continue to honor our quota via CP which we accounted for July". Just my interpretation. Don't shoot the messenger ;)
For Consular processing people have to plan trips and get medical and all that.
Why doesnt the same analogy apply to AOS. - Please explain...:confused:
The difference is that AOS is handled by USCIS and the CP is done by DOS. It is the USCIS which ran out of the 60000 visas (supposedly) before July 1st even though DOS opened those numbers up for the entire July.
Now, DOS is saying to USCIS " you guys used your quota even before the rush started and so, we won't give you any more visa numbers but, we will continue to honor our quota via CP which we accounted for July". Just my interpretation. Don't shoot the messenger ;)
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andy garcia
10-01 11:28 AM
Great find, Andy. Based on your explanation, I can say that our real problem is not the lack of visa numbers. There are enough visa numbers, but USCIS is not utilizing them.
This also tells me that an increase in visa numbers to 290,000 (or what ever number that the SKILL bill is asking for) would NOT change the situation a little bit. The end result only will be that the USCIS will end up with more number of unused visas.
Can the IV community do some thing to improve the whole situation?
Thanks h1techSlave;
I always said that the problem is not the visa numbers but some people replied that I am an anti-Indian/Chinese/etc.
just because I said so.
Remember that this system was designed back when there was one single queue.
You applied for your Labor and waited(establish a PD), everybody who applied after you was behind you.
After the Labor was approved, you applied for the I-140. This will determine your category/country of chargeability and will filter some of the fraud cases
After the I-140 was granted. You apply for either CP or AOS. At this point CIS/DOS knew how many applications were pending for each category/country and could move the dates smoothly.
Now the mess is so big that it takes them until February(6 months after the End of the previous Fiscal Year) to publish the number of visas issued
This also tells me that an increase in visa numbers to 290,000 (or what ever number that the SKILL bill is asking for) would NOT change the situation a little bit. The end result only will be that the USCIS will end up with more number of unused visas.
Can the IV community do some thing to improve the whole situation?
Thanks h1techSlave;
I always said that the problem is not the visa numbers but some people replied that I am an anti-Indian/Chinese/etc.
just because I said so.
Remember that this system was designed back when there was one single queue.
You applied for your Labor and waited(establish a PD), everybody who applied after you was behind you.
After the Labor was approved, you applied for the I-140. This will determine your category/country of chargeability and will filter some of the fraud cases
After the I-140 was granted. You apply for either CP or AOS. At this point CIS/DOS knew how many applications were pending for each category/country and could move the dates smoothly.
Now the mess is so big that it takes them until February(6 months after the End of the previous Fiscal Year) to publish the number of visas issued
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yabadaba
08-10 12:40 PM
no receipts for me too :( r Williams 7:55am 07/02
i m going go drinking to drown my sorrows soon.
i m going go drinking to drown my sorrows soon.
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gc_kaavaali
07-14 03:43 PM
Scheduled on 7/17/08
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Hello everyone,
I am starting a new campaign for IV's benefit. It is called "Give me a High Five".
The point of this campaign is to send Not $100, not $50, not even $10.
ALL you need to do is write out a $5 cheque and send it to IV on the address listed.
The address to mail the checks to is:
Immigration Voice
P O Box 1372
Arcadia, CA 91077-1372
This address can also be found at: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=65
Please make sure you send in a cheque ONLY or do a bill pay so that no paypal/google checkout fees apply and all of the $5 ACTUALLY goes to IV.
We have 30,000 members on here. If EACH of us contributes just $5 we have $150,000.
For the sake of your OWN freedom, can you donate just FIVE dollars to IV? Every single one of you. IV has done a LOT for every legal immigrant. All we ask in return right now is FIVE dollars. FIVE dollars. Not the price of one month of Cable, but the price of a SUBWAY SANDWICH.
Confirmation# 7YB9Q-GCRR7
Hello everyone,
I am starting a new campaign for IV's benefit. It is called "Give me a High Five".
The point of this campaign is to send Not $100, not $50, not even $10.
ALL you need to do is write out a $5 cheque and send it to IV on the address listed.
The address to mail the checks to is:
Immigration Voice
P O Box 1372
Arcadia, CA 91077-1372
This address can also be found at: http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=76&Itemid=65
Please make sure you send in a cheque ONLY or do a bill pay so that no paypal/google checkout fees apply and all of the $5 ACTUALLY goes to IV.
We have 30,000 members on here. If EACH of us contributes just $5 we have $150,000.
For the sake of your OWN freedom, can you donate just FIVE dollars to IV? Every single one of you. IV has done a LOT for every legal immigrant. All we ask in return right now is FIVE dollars. FIVE dollars. Not the price of one month of Cable, but the price of a SUBWAY SANDWICH.
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I am in too...its not going to harm anything...
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harivenkat
05-06 06:16 PM
Called all senators some of them twice and talked to their staff
asking to support highly skilled worker immigration atleast some piecemeal.. also explained them our plight ... 10yrs still no GC
Everybody please call senators and make a difference
asking to support highly skilled worker immigration atleast some piecemeal.. also explained them our plight ... 10yrs still no GC
Everybody please call senators and make a difference
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indyanguy
11-11 09:42 PM
so If I don't work parttime but I want to start a LLC to hire some people and want to maintain my H1.........Is it possible ??????????
Anyone can open a company even while you are on a H1 (you don't need EAD for it). But, you can't work for it. Technically, signing a check or opening a bank account is considered to be "work".
Anyone can open a company even while you are on a H1 (you don't need EAD for it). But, you can't work for it. Technically, signing a check or opening a bank account is considered to be "work".
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09-14 11:21 AM
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07-06 08:35 AM
I think the biggest lesson for you will come in through this thread itself. You may find, after all, its not that easy to motivate people to take action, much less form a coherent strategy and run with it.
My guess is in the end you will come out cursing not just the core but all IV members for them lacking or something, because they can't get on board with your idea.
The only reason IV has been able to achieve something with such a low amount of "per capita" effort is because it's an "apoltical" and "volunteer" organization. You change that to "political", and amount of effort (time and money) people will contribute will fizzle out before you can have your post election party!
My suggestion: Open a parallel organzation. Learn what it takes to get people on board with your agenda. if you DELIVER SOMETHING, people will automatically follow you.
Funds will follow if people see viability. Anywaz nothing is coming out of lobbying efforts so currently how does it even matter ?
My guess is in the end you will come out cursing not just the core but all IV members for them lacking or something, because they can't get on board with your idea.
The only reason IV has been able to achieve something with such a low amount of "per capita" effort is because it's an "apoltical" and "volunteer" organization. You change that to "political", and amount of effort (time and money) people will contribute will fizzle out before you can have your post election party!
My suggestion: Open a parallel organzation. Learn what it takes to get people on board with your agenda. if you DELIVER SOMETHING, people will automatically follow you.
Funds will follow if people see viability. Anywaz nothing is coming out of lobbying efforts so currently how does it even matter ?
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Green.Tech
06-10 02:12 PM
These visa bulletins, and EAD renewals, and H-1B extensions are not going to cut it for those who want GC's sooner than later. Please help IV to help you.
1) Make those ever important phone calls, and
2) Contribute financially
Don't let this opportunity pass by. Don't let the same visa bulletin get you 3 years down the line. Only we can help push these reforms, no one else is out there to help us!
1) Make those ever important phone calls, and
2) Contribute financially
Don't let this opportunity pass by. Don't let the same visa bulletin get you 3 years down the line. Only we can help push these reforms, no one else is out there to help us!
ragz4u
03-08 02:18 PM
This will go on until 1.00 pm and there will not be any session in the afternoon tomorrow.
Senator Specter is going to talk to Sen. Bill Frist so that all Judiciary Committee members turn up tomorrow
Senator Specter is going to talk to Sen. Bill Frist so that all Judiciary Committee members turn up tomorrow
kushaljn
07-15 11:56 AM
Just sent $10 for me and my wife.
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